Similar to a Satyr?
We should be alert to the quality of our ministry and teachings. One comparison I’m seeing more frequently now from fellow believers is causing me a measure of consternation. Now, I used to find this comparison insightful, even though I never incorporated it: how the Greek satyr Marsyas was tied to a tree trunk with his hands above his head (and feet tied standing on the ground) to be flayed. This has been used to corroborate the no-crossbeam teaching in Jesus’ death.
Upon first glance, the way this satyr is positioned on the tree may look corroborative; but upon closer inspection, some inconsistencies arise:
As a statue of this Greek satyr Marsyas is on display in the world-famous Louvre Museum in France, it has been mentioned in our publications—but only three times: in a 1969 and a 1978 Awake, and once in a 1987 Watchtower. The 1978 Awake said he was “flayed on a torture stake;” however this is Greek, not Roman—thus technically not a torture stake but a tree for flaying. The last reference merely depicted the statue for comparison.
Fortunately, and wisely, this has not been repeated since 1987—and we should follow this example and cease using this satyr too. Being tied by the wrists to a heavy tree with standing tied feet (for flaying!) is not what the Romans did to Jesus. It really is not that all comparable, and is really more of a liability than a support.
Thank you for listening.
Related blog entries:
Credits:
Upon first glance, the way this satyr is positioned on the tree may look corroborative; but upon closer inspection, some inconsistencies arise:
- Jesus was not suspended for flaying. It would be unwise to quickly dismiss this distinction—for his feet were nailed, not standing.
- The condemned (or someone else pressed into service) had to carry the torture stake.—Matthew 27:32; Mark 15:21; Luke 23:26; John 19:17.
The problem with using this statue then is that it could look like a case of confirmation bias and selective use of history and archeology. Therefore, it would be wiser to stick to the Bible and not use this suspended satyr.
As a statue of this Greek satyr Marsyas is on display in the world-famous Louvre Museum in France, it has been mentioned in our publications—but only three times: in a 1969 and a 1978 Awake, and once in a 1987 Watchtower. The 1978 Awake said he was “flayed on a torture stake;” however this is Greek, not Roman—thus technically not a torture stake but a tree for flaying. The last reference merely depicted the statue for comparison.
Fortunately, and wisely, this has not been repeated since 1987—and we should follow this example and cease using this satyr too. Being tied by the wrists to a heavy tree with standing tied feet (for flaying!) is not what the Romans did to Jesus. It really is not that all comparable, and is really more of a liability than a support.
Thank you for listening.
Related blog entries:
- Impale in the NWT
jimspace3000.blogspot.com/2018/11/impale-in-nwt.html - A Word of Advice
jimspace3000.blogspot.com/2017/01/a-word-of-advice.html - What’s at stake
jimspace3000.blogspot.com/2017/04/whats-at-stake.html
Credits:
- Ancient History Encyclopedia. “A marble statue of Marsyas, he who, in Greek mythology, challenged Apollo to a music contest and was flayed alive for his audacity. Found in Rome, early Roman imperial age copy of a 2nd century BCE Greek original.” (Capitoline Museums, Rome) https://www.ancient.eu/image/4483/marsyas/
- Encyclopedia Britannica: “Marsyas” https://www.britannica.com/topic/Marsyas-Greek-mythology. “Marsyas about to be flayed, antique sculpture; in the collection of the Capitoline Museums, Rome.” Isolating his feet bound together, not to the tree.
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